Do You Trust Government Run Health Care?

Update at bottom –

As a follow-up to the previous post “Trust Government? HAH!“, let’s ask the question:  Do we really trust Government, i.e., the current Administration and Congress, with something as important and personal as our medical health?

Let’s see what our current President has to say about what he believes is the right course of action:

h/t to Indigo Red and many others (found it at Indigo’s place first)

Let’s now look at a news report from a main-stream media, ABC’s 20/20, of the Canadian system that is a single-payer system that treats people worse than pets:

h/t from Dee at Conservatism With Heart for this one.

But what happens in Canada and other countries with a single-payer government run health-care system can’t happen here, right?  Well, let’s take a look at what happened to cancer patients in Oregon:


So if you are too expensive to heal, the government will give you pain-killers and hemlock to ease you over into the next world?  Almost sounds like putting the sick and old folks on an ice flow and setting them adrift…  And then there is the other option which is part of the “shovel-ready” projects in the stimulus plan:

seniorshovelready Still trust the Administration and Congress to take care of you if you are sick?  Then you are truly drinking the Kool-Aide.  Consider the following short list summary of the House health-care bill from Brushfire of Freedom (you know, the one that is over a 1,000 pages and too long for our elected leaders to read?):

Pg 22 of the Health Care Bill mandates the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self-insure.

Pg 30 Sec 123- There will be a government committee that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

Pg 29 lines 4-16 – Your health care will be rationed.

Pg 42 – The “Health Choices Commissioner” will choose your HC Benefits for you.

PG 50 Section 152- HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

Pg 53- Severability

“If any provision of the Act, or any application of such provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be unconstitutional, the remainder of the provisions of this Act and the application of the provision to any other person or circumstance shall not be affected.”

Pg 58 – Govt. will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a National ID Health card will be issued

Pg 59 lines 21-24- Govt. will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations (i.e. ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt. is creating an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Govt. control.

PG 84 Sec 203 – Govt. mandates all benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 – Specs for Benefit Levels for Plans

PG 91 Lines 4-7- Govt. mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example: Translation for illegal aliens

Pg 95 Lines 8-18 The Govt. will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt. HC plan.

PG 85 Line 7 – Specs of Benefit Levels For Plans.

PG 102 Lines 12-18- Medicaid-Eligible Individual will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

pg 124 lines 24-25 No company can sue Govt. on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt. Monopoly.

pg 127 Lines 1-16- RE: Doctors- The Govt. will determine your salary.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer must auto-enroll employees into public option plan.

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers must pay for HC for part time employees and their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 Any Employer w/ payroll $400k & above who doesn’t provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

PG 150 Lines 9-13- Business w/ payroll between 251k & 400k who doesn’t provide pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 Any individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Govt. will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is EXEMPT from individual taxes.

Pg 195 Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans financial/personal records

PG 203 Line 14-15 “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it actually says that.

Pg 239 Line 14-24 Govt. will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor will be affected.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 Doctors, doesn’t matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same.

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt. sets value of Dr’s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally sets the value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131 Govt. mandates and controls productivity for private HC industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt. regulates rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

PG 272 SEC. 1145 TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt. will penalize hospitals for what Govt. deems “preventable re-admissions.”

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission? Govt. will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt. tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion Govt. is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

Pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required.

Pg 335 Lines 16-25, Pg 336-339 – Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt. has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv. Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt. plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 Govt. will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt. creates more bureaucracy – “Telehealth Advisory Committee.”

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt. mandates “Advanced Care Planning Consultations.”

PG 425 The Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier.

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt. will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt. provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt. mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt. has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “advanced care planning consult” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “Advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government.

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 The Govt. will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt. will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.

Pg 469 – Community Based Home Medical Services = Non profit organizations.

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. (ACORN?)

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt. will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt. into your marriage.

Pg 494-498: Govt. will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

PG 502 Section 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established.

PG 502 Line 5-18 Government builds the “Center” to conduct, support, and synthesize research to define our HealthCare Services.

PG 503 Line 13-19 Government will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic medical records.

PG 503 Line 21-25 Government may secure data directly from any department or agency of the US including your data.

PG 504 Line 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published & unpublished (that means public & your private info)

PG 506 Line 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data

PG 518 Line 21-25 The Commission will have input from HealthCare consumer reps

PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.

PGs 525-620 Deals with the Govt. basically taking over nursing homes, long-term care facilities (think assisted living) through regulations of the facilities, the owners of said facilities, the employees of said facilities and even the land owners of that said facilities reside on. Additionally as you read these 90+ pages you can come to the conclusion that any Health related services will be determined and rationed by the Govt. for our senior citizens and others in nursing homes. This one post should do enough to raise awareness of the control the Govt. is exerting over the older population of American citizens.

PG 620 Line 1-9 The Government will define, prioritize, and nationalize your Health Care Services.

PG 621 Lines 20-25 Government will define what Quality means in HealthCare.

PG 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the quality Standards, Government will transfer $$ from and to other Government Trust Funds. More Taxes.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.

G 628 Section 1443 Government will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.

PG 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups including Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HealthCare quality.

PG 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of HealthCare Services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.

PG 635 – 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Government wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Government.

PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Government will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you’ll live.

PG 676-686 Government will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, including teaching hospitals.

PG 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse such as the Government’s $18M website

PGs 701-704 Section 1619 If your part of HealthCare plan that isn’t in Government HealthCare Exchange but you qualify for Federal aid, no payment.

705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secretary gets complaints on HealthCare provider or supplier, Government can do background check.

G 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HealthCare providers/suppliers admittance into HealthCare Exchange.

Pg 719-720 Section 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.

PG 722 Section 1639 Government Mandates Doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other HealthCare service.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Government certifications will apply to medicaid & CHIP (your kids) Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforcement purposes, the Secretary of Health & Human Services will give Attorney General access to ALL data.

PG 740-757 Government sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured

Pg 757-762 Fed Government will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)

Page 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin

Pg 765 Section 1711 Government will require Preventative Services including vaccines.

Pg 768 Section 1713 Government – Nurse Home Visitation Services

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services – “increasing birth intervals between pregnancies.”

Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Services include-economic self-sufficiency, employment advancement, school-readiness.

Pg 770 SEC 1714 Federal Government mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Say abortion & State Sovereign.

Pg 789-797 Government will set & mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs will be brought to market.

Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for grad medical education. The government will now control Dr’s education.

PG 801 Sec 1751 The Government will decide which Health care conditions will be paid.

Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc. required to register. Government takes over private payment system.

Page 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal finances.

Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.

PG 829-833 Government will impose a fee on ALL private health insurance plans including self insured to pay for Trust Fund

PG 835 11-13 Fees imposed by Government for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.

838-840 Government will design & implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids & families expecting kids.

PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Program includes Government coming into your house & telling you how to parent

Pg 859 Government will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes thats Billion.

PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HealthCare for 2 years for part loan repayment.

PG 876-892 The Government takes over the education of our Medical students and Drs.

PG 898 The Government will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps. to ensure supply of public health professionals.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of officers of Regular & Reserve Corps of Service.

898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.

901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers.

PG 910 The Government will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.

PG 913-914 Government starts a HealthCare affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.

PG 915 SEC. 2251. Government MANDATES Cultural & linguistic competency training for HealthCare professionals.

Pg 932 The Government will establish Preventative & Wellness Trust fund – intial cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion.

PG 935 21-22 Government will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. Control You!!

PG 936 Government will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Performance Standards” Tell me what to eat?

PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Government? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Services, Minority Health, Women’s Health

PG 950- 980 BIG Government core public health infrastructure includes workforce capacity, lab systems; health information systems, etc

PG 993 Government will establish school based health clinics.

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment.

PG 1001 The Government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

PG 1003 9-11 National Medical Dev Reg ‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities” you WILL be tracked.

PG 1018 States give up some of their State Sovereignty.

On page 879-880, the bill states that the Secretary of Health and Human Services:

“…shall make grants to, or enter into contracts with, eligible entities . . . to operate a professional training program in the field of family medicine, general internal medicine, general pediatrics, or geriatrics, to provide financial assistance and traineeships and fellowships to those students, interns, residents or physicians who plan to work in or teach in the field of family medicine, general internal medicine, general pediatrics, or geriatrics.”

On page 881-882 the bill states:

“In awarding grants or contracts under this section, the Secretary shall give preference to entities that have a demonstrated record of the following: . . . Training individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups or disadvantaged backgrounds.”

On page 883 the bill states:

“The Secretary shall make grants to, or enter into contracts with, eligible entities . . . to operate or participate in an established primary care residency training program, which may include-(A) planning and developing curricula; (B) recruitment and training of residents; and (C) retention of faculty.”

On page 884-885 the bill states:

“In awarding grants and contracts . . . the Secretary shall give preference to entities that have a demonstrated record of training . . . individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups or disadvantaged backgrounds . . . .”

On page 887-889 the bill states that the

“Secretary shall make grants to, or enter into contracts with, eligible entities . . . to operate a professional training program for oral health professionals, to provide financial assistance and traineeships and fellowships to those professionals who plan to work in or teach general, pediatric, or public health dentistry, or dental hygiene, to establish, maintain, or improve academic administrative units (including departments, divisions, or other appropriate units) in the specialties of general, pediatric, or public health dentistry, to operate a loan repayment program for full-time faculty in a program of general, pediatric, or public health dentistry.”

On page 889-890 the bill states:

“In awarding grants or contracts under this section, the Secretary shall give preference to entities that have a demonstrated record of the following: . . . Training individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups or disadvantaged backgrounds.”

On page 908-909 the bill states: “The Secretary shall award grants and contracts to eligible entities” to do the same things for the field of public health as the Secretary can do for dentistry.

On page 909 the bill states:

“In awarding grants or contracts under this section, the Secretary shall give preference to entities that have a demonstrated record of the following: . . . Training individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups or disadvantaged backgrounds.”

As the woman stated in the town hall with Specter and Sebelius noted in the previous post:

“I look at this health care plan and I see nothing that is about health or about care. What I see is a bureaucratic nightmare, Senator.”

A nightmare indeed. This government-run monstrosity needs to be killed before it ever sees the light of day.

Call & write your Congresscritter objecting to this insane proposal.

Update –

From Debbie at Right Truth comes a couple of more reviews of what is in store for us:

  • First, another summary of HR3200 from the Liberty Council.
  • Second, the “Plan B” just in case HR3200 doesn’t pass.  From The Weekly Standard.

Last, the text of HR3200 (aka ‘‘America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009’’) for your reference.

Note: If we can read and digest this bill, why can’t our Representatives, Senators, and President?  Isn’t that their job?

13 thoughts on “Do You Trust Government Run Health Care?

  1. I’ve seen that top video. Damning of the government’s plan!

    I’ll have to revisit here to watch the other videos as I have to leave for work in a few minutes.

    Anyway, having dealt with various government agencies over the years, I can’t imagine that the government can manage a health-care plan, especially an all-encompassing one.

  2. wow, comprehensive this post is and how utterly sickening Obama’s LIES are. Yesterday, his Media woman in charge of cramming this plan down our throats, Linda Douglass, reiterated how we’d STILL get to KEEP OUR PLAN! I give the private insurance companies 2 years before they’re GONE (one business that gov’t WON’T bail out, of course) because what company’s going to continue to pay for good health care when A, good health care’s been ruined by one-party pay, and B, it’s more expensive than gov’t health care in the short run? Two years, nobody will have it anymore. He KNOWS that, he’s LYING. And it took me longer than most of the bloggers to finally use the LIE word with a President.

    ABC? I couldn’t believe it, until I saw it was Stossel’s report; the only honest ABC journalist…good on him.

    Paul Krugman’s gaffe was classic, did you see it? ON a panel where he’s touting Obama health care “to be more like Canada’s!”..he suddenly looks out at the group and asks “How many of you are Canadian?” Off stage whisper says “About 7, looks to me..” Paul says “OKAY! How many of you really think your healthcare is TERRIBLE?” laughingly………..Off stage whisper says “uh…the same hands that went up saying they’re Canadians!”
    Krugman: “Gee, maybe I shouldn’t have asked that question”


  3. Thanks, Tom – I linked to you (as the comment above shows) because Joe pointed you out.

    Now, instead of shrinking my blogroll, it has once again expanded a bit…

  4. Isn’t is strange that you are able to read and find out what’s in this bill, but our representatives in congress with all of their staff and resources supposedly don’t know what’s in it?
    Isn’t it also strange how the sponsors of the bill along with Obama somehow claim that what’s in the bill actually isn’t?
    Good work going through that cesspool and pulling out the cold hard facts.

  5. AOW – I think that the lady’s comment said it all about the ability of government to run any program based on past and present performance.

    dcat – Great video, and indirectly points out that other government-run health schemes around the world do not work in the long run.

    Z – It is incredible, isn’t it? These people claim that they know what is good for us, but are trying to shaft us with spin. I also hope that the media starts growing a pair and wakes up to the insanity that this Administration and Congress are trying to foist upon the American public. I didn’t see Krugman’s blunder but it is on YouTube at this link.

    Cary – Thank you for visiting and adding a link to your blogroll. I have added you as well.

    Pete – Yes, isn’t it. Obviously, we do not have the sharpest sticks in Congress. And I will give credit where credit is due – A lot of people much smarter than I have gone through this 1,000+ page monstrosity until their eyes bled to find out what is in it. But Congress put this together, and they should read what they wrote to fully understand what they are voting on.

  6. Ummmm Tom I’m tellin’……you are posting loads of,”misinformation,” and I’m going to tattle to the illegal and unconstitutional site that Obama has created to stop dissent in the manner of Joseph Goebbles.

    Excellent post covering all the basis to get the truth out about this ridiculus socialist health care debacle. Well Done !

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